My undergraduate degree is in Philosophy. My Ancient Greek Philosophy Professor was great! We read all the dialogues you listed. And I too highly recommend them. They ARE fun to read. Enjoy!
Meno was the one I started with. Although it's big and dense, these days I recommend starting with The Republic - it's a broad and representative sample of Plato.
I have read all the Dialogues (and the Letters too). Some, twice or even more - such as Phaedrus, Phaedo and Gorgias. The Republic, five times. And still, I feel the need to return to it sometime.
As Gadamer pointed out, Platonic dialogues are open - they ignite your mind and keep your thoughts flowing.
Let's look at the Fallacy of Ambiguity and how that fallacious "thinking" has perverted study of the Bible. The word "Jew" has 3 different meanings: 1) A biological descendent of Judah. 2) A resident of the province of Judea. 3) An adherent of the apostate religion known as Judaism. Jesus was "Jew" in the 1st sense. He was not a "Jew" in the 3rd sense - He severely condemned Judaism throughout His ministry on Earth. See, e.g., John 8:44 when He told the adherents of the apostate religion that their father was the Devil.
But Zionist Christians don't understand this; and thus they slip and slide between the different meanings and can't even tell them apart.
When reading any text, the first step is to clear the mind of everything that one has heard - one must eliminate all presuppositions so that one can read the text with a clean unbiased mind. It's a good practice to always reject other peoples' presuppositions and what "everybody says".
The Old Testament is about the Promise of the Coming Christ (expressly stated at Genesis 3:15) and the history of the Israelite People. The religion of the OT is not "Judaism". Judaism has always been an apostate religion - and it arose later. The OT is about Christianity where salvation and blessings are based on FAITH & belief in God. That is why God blessed and singled out Abraham - because he believed God. [They even believed God when He said that 100 year old Sarah would give birth to a child.] And Abraham's "seed" and heirs of the Promise are those who belong to Christ (Galatians 3:28-29).
God is not a racist - salvation or moral worth has never been by biological descent. The Saved come from all the different people groups and God has no favoritism for one people group over another.
The Bible is Literature. The term, "Israel" as used in the New Testament, does not refer to "Jews" in any of the three different senses; but to those who are saved by the blood of the Lamb. They comprise "Israel". They are the Chosen People - those who are in Christ.
I repeat: God isn't a racist: The Saved come from all nations, tribes and tongues. Adherents of any apostate religion can repent and convert to Christianity and be saved.
Most Bible teachers are blind guides who are repeating the lies they have been told.
"You can learn a lot from reading Plato—especially because for him philosophy is not a sterile academic exercise but an invitation to configure your soul to the truth, to that which is beautiful. His writings make claims about how you live your life." <-- beautifully said and sadly mostly unrecognizable to modern philosophy.
Six or seven years ago now I started with the Apology and the Meno. I have read 7 or 8 of Plato's works to date, but never First Alcibiades! I would definitely recommend the apology as a good starting point. In fact, reading the dialogues collected as the Last Days of Socrates is a good starting point, I think. I would put the Republic close behind.
My undergraduate degree is in Philosophy. My Ancient Greek Philosophy Professor was great! We read all the dialogues you listed. And I too highly recommend them. They ARE fun to read. Enjoy!
This is excellent, thank you.
I’ve never heard of “FirstAlcibiades” until now but it sounds really interesting, definitely going to have to look into it
It is really excellent. A great and even humorous read.
Meno was the one I started with. Although it's big and dense, these days I recommend starting with The Republic - it's a broad and representative sample of Plato.
I have read all the Dialogues (and the Letters too). Some, twice or even more - such as Phaedrus, Phaedo and Gorgias. The Republic, five times. And still, I feel the need to return to it sometime.
As Gadamer pointed out, Platonic dialogues are open - they ignite your mind and keep your thoughts flowing.
Let's look at the Fallacy of Ambiguity and how that fallacious "thinking" has perverted study of the Bible. The word "Jew" has 3 different meanings: 1) A biological descendent of Judah. 2) A resident of the province of Judea. 3) An adherent of the apostate religion known as Judaism. Jesus was "Jew" in the 1st sense. He was not a "Jew" in the 3rd sense - He severely condemned Judaism throughout His ministry on Earth. See, e.g., John 8:44 when He told the adherents of the apostate religion that their father was the Devil.
But Zionist Christians don't understand this; and thus they slip and slide between the different meanings and can't even tell them apart.
When reading any text, the first step is to clear the mind of everything that one has heard - one must eliminate all presuppositions so that one can read the text with a clean unbiased mind. It's a good practice to always reject other peoples' presuppositions and what "everybody says".
The Old Testament is about the Promise of the Coming Christ (expressly stated at Genesis 3:15) and the history of the Israelite People. The religion of the OT is not "Judaism". Judaism has always been an apostate religion - and it arose later. The OT is about Christianity where salvation and blessings are based on FAITH & belief in God. That is why God blessed and singled out Abraham - because he believed God. [They even believed God when He said that 100 year old Sarah would give birth to a child.] And Abraham's "seed" and heirs of the Promise are those who belong to Christ (Galatians 3:28-29).
God is not a racist - salvation or moral worth has never been by biological descent. The Saved come from all the different people groups and God has no favoritism for one people group over another.
The Bible is Literature. The term, "Israel" as used in the New Testament, does not refer to "Jews" in any of the three different senses; but to those who are saved by the blood of the Lamb. They comprise "Israel". They are the Chosen People - those who are in Christ.
I repeat: God isn't a racist: The Saved come from all nations, tribes and tongues. Adherents of any apostate religion can repent and convert to Christianity and be saved.
Most Bible teachers are blind guides who are repeating the lies they have been told.
You don't need any of that Academic <spit> mess. Here's most of the answers: https://kaiserbasileus.substack.com/p/metaphysics-in-a-nutshell
"You can learn a lot from reading Plato—especially because for him philosophy is not a sterile academic exercise but an invitation to configure your soul to the truth, to that which is beautiful. His writings make claims about how you live your life." <-- beautifully said and sadly mostly unrecognizable to modern philosophy.
Six or seven years ago now I started with the Apology and the Meno. I have read 7 or 8 of Plato's works to date, but never First Alcibiades! I would definitely recommend the apology as a good starting point. In fact, reading the dialogues collected as the Last Days of Socrates is a good starting point, I think. I would put the Republic close behind.